Your brain on sugar: why we're all addicted with danielle daem (Ep. 11)
April 17th, 2022
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Dani: And we get that hit in the brain. And what sugar does when the glucose actually travels to the brain or the fructose, which are the smallest broken down molecules of sugar travel to the brain. Like I said, hit those reward centers, right? They go to actually all the areas in the brain, cuz our brain can actually live off of glucose.
It is a fuel source in the body, but it sends these signals to these pleasure centers. Right. And all of these areas in the brain that fire up, like imagine fireworks they’ve actually done. And you can probably find some on YouTube I would imagine. Some beautiful, like MRI scans of people eating sugar and seeing what happens in the brain.
And it looks really beautiful, but it’s really eye opening at how like powerful that is. And when we’re doing this our whole lives, most of us start young overdosing on sugar like I did, that is happening constantly all day long.
Doug: Welcome back to the weight loss with hypnosis podcast. My name is Doug sands, and I’m the [00:04:00] host and the hypnotist behind this show and welcome to this week’s episode. Today, I have a truly eye-opening interview to share with you from Danielle Daem. Now, Danielle is a sugar expert, and a holistic nutrition coach and a speaker as well.
And Danielle or Dani for short, talk about sugar addiction extensively in this podcast. Now, Dani has experienced a sugar addiction herself. We talked about how she detox from sugar and what that was actually like. That experience might surprise you a little bit. Now, I actually bumped up this podcast in the schedule, one, because I thought this information was so important for you to get at that base foundational level that I wanted you to have this right off the bat as soon as possible. This may be one of my favorite interviews so far, and I think this information is absolutely essential for learning the basics of our nutrition. And also because Dani has a powerful resource that I wanted to help promote to help all of the listeners who are currently listening in, AKA [00:05:00] you, listening into this right now.
I want you to check out her program which is coming up in just a few days, if you’re listening to this when this launches live. Danny has a group of program beginning around the last week of March or the beginning of April. Those dates are being finalized as she’s wrapping up the final touches as I’m doing this recording a few weeks out.
And so if you thought what Danny shared in this episode was eye opening, I really encourage you to check out this program. Follow the links in the description, because you’ll be able to access this program and learn a little bit more about the specifics that we talked about in this podcast.
Again, that program is coming out in March or April of 2022, but if you’re listening in the future, one time travel is pretty cool, but two, I encourage you to check out as well, because this is something that’s going to be a digital course that you can access in the future. So, I think this is a fantastic episode and I know you will as well.
So with that, let’s dive right into the episode.
Doug: Welcome back to the podcast, everyone. My name is Doug Sands and I’m the hypnotist behind this show. And I’m so excited to have this conversation today with Danielle Daem. Danielle, thank you so much for being on the show today.
Dani: Thank you so much Doug, for inviting me in I’m really, really excited to chat today.
Doug: Absolutely. Would you mind telling listeners a little bit about yourself?
Dani: Yeah, absolutely. I mean where to start, right. I’ll try to keep it short. So, yeah, you can call me Dani and I am a holistic nutrition coach and I specialize in really helping women stepping fully into their power and uncover the root causes around their addictions and patterns with sugar.
So I’m the sugar guru, the sugar coach, and that’s really been a passion of mine for the last five years, obviously through my own journey. And that starts at childhood and I’m sure we’ll get into a lot of that today on the podcast where my propensity to just turn to sugar for everything, every emotion, you know. Every birthday party, every time I want to celebrate anything. My sugar [00:07:00] addiction has been big part of my life for so many years.
And over the last six years, I’ve not only really found a place of freedom and peace with food myself through doing a lot of inner work and a lot of obviously detoxing from sugar. And there’s a bunch of pieces, which I know we’ll dive into today, but, it’s really become a huge passion to then help others do that on uncovering, unraveling of where these patterns are coming from.
And that’s why I’m so excited to be here on your show Doug, because I know you have a lot of these conversations, right? The mindset pieces, the emotional pieces, the deeper pieces that are really at the root of all of the things in our life, whether it’s weight loss or just our relationship with food or relationships with people or a job, but it all stems from within.
So that’s really become my passion and now I run successful group programs. Every year I have a membership site where it’s ongoing support with other women at all stages of their journey into sugar freedom. And it’s absolutely just so exciting and so rewarding and yeah, I’m excited to dive in a little deeper, but that’s the Coles notes of a little bit about me.
I’d love to explore your, own personal experience. I think it’s really powerful when a practitioner has that and they’ve actually gone [00:08:00] through it. But first, just to lay the foundation of sugar and sugar addiction, many of us have encountered addictions. Things like smoking or drinking, whatever it may be, but many might not be familiar with sugar or the idea of sugar as an addiction.
Would you mind telling us a little bit about perhaps what classifies it as that and what kind of um, I don’t want to say symptoms, but what that looks like in the body?
Dani: Yeah. Oh, such a great question, Doug. And that’s so important to start there so thanks for asking that. You know, it is true. We live in a society where it’s so common and we understand what alcohol addiction looks like, or drug addiction or porn addiction, right?
Like all of these other, you know, shopping addiction, like all the things. And it’s really been eye-opening over the last couple of decades, right. People starting to actually understand that food is also an addiction, right? Cause an addiction in my definition, you’ll find a million definitions, right?
Is a behavior that in the short term gives you a positive feeling or result, but in the longterm actually causes you damage. Right? And you still do the behavior anyway, so this can be anything. And the more we’ve started uncovering [00:09:00] about sugar specifically, and I’m not the scientist behind any of these studies, but you can definitely look in, I mean, I highly recommend checking out Dr. Robert Lustig. He’s the guru that kind of was the whistleblower, calling out actually sugar and how the food industry lied to us, pointing our finger at fat, how fat was bad. And it was actually sugar that was causing our metabolic diseases and everything else that comes from that.
So really the research now is, you can’t ignore that sugar actually hits the brain the same way as hard drugs. So I know they’ve made a lot of, studies that show how sugar actually lights up the pleasure centers in the brain, the same way as cocaine. So what’s that implication? obviously there’s an addictive behavior, like physical addictive component that hijacks our brain and giving us those huge shots of dopamine and other hormones that then keep us on this craving rollercoaster of, you know, give me more, give me more.
And we become accustomed right. With sugar being now added to over 80% of the things in the grocery store, which if you didn’t know that and you’re listening, maybe that’s a big, mind blowing moment. We are all overdosing on sugar without actually [00:10:00] knowing it and this is the scary part. Like it’s not necessarily the choosing to have a cupcake.
That’s the problem. It’s the fact that the sugar is also in your granola and your yogurt and your salad dressing and your, you know, instant meal, whatever you’re eating. And we’re just overdosing. And what that’s doing in our brain is just continually hitting those addictive pleasure centers. And over time they get worn out in the way that then we need more to feel that same hit, right?
So that’s the addictive, like really basic 101, you know, addiction in terms of the brain and how it just starts the chemicals actually start numbing out and we need more to actually get that same hit of, quote unquote happiness. Right? That sugar high, if anyone’s ever had it. There’s so much research out there.
You could do your own, there has been studies where there’s rats in cages and they’re given the choice between cocaine, water, and sugar water, and they choose the sugar water. So it’s mind blowing to see like that aggressive kind of handle and control that sugar does have on us and the unfortunate truth.
And this is really important for everybody to know is that the food industry has known this for decades. And this is [00:11:00] why they put so much sugar in food because it makes us buy more of their food. Right. We want more. So it is unfortunate. we do live in, that kind of climate where there is a lot of money and profits in that industry and it’s really important just to understand that. So we know that it’s on us to take personal responsibility for what we’re eating and why we’re eating it. And just understanding that there is this very, very, and that’s just the addictive piece of sugar, you know, in the brain, obviously sugar and overdosing and sugar, so many other toxic effects on the body which we can get into.
But the other side of that addiction and why it’s clear that this is an addiction is the physiological pieces. So really noticing in the world how just like with alcohol, right? When we’re not feeling comfortable or we’re avoiding something or there’s trauma in the body, we turn to food, right.
In the same sort of like escapism behaviors as with alcohol. And with sugar, and I know this, I’ve worked with hundreds of women now, you know, there is that sense of no control. And that right there is an addictive behavior or a red flag, right? If you can’t [00:12:00] stop at just having one cookie, even though you ate a big meal and you’re definitely not hungry, and you just feel like you just are out of control and there’s like this, somebody else controlling your eating and how much you’re eating and overeating.
I mean, those are addictive patterns and behaviors and we can’t ignore that anymore. So to answer your second part of your question, Doug, it shows up you know, differently for all of us. I mean, I gave a couple sort of symptoms or red flags, we’ve noticed that you can’t just have one, you can’t control your eating.
Maybe you notice that you’re just like opening the cupboards in the fridge late at night for no reason. Another really, really big warning sign when you’re this is you know, kind of a combo of letting you know that there’s probably some blood sugar dysregulation, meaning your ability to process and use sugar, is not working functioning properly in your body, which creates inflammation and leads to disease, is that you’re hungry first thing in the morning, like there’s this hunger. And it’s funny when sometimes when I, cause I still eat sugar, it’s just in moderation on my terms. I play with this myself and there’ll be like, say days or weeks when maybe I have a little bit more sugar than I want to.
And I’ll wake up in the morning [00:13:00] feeling so hungry. And I know that’s a sign that my body is, dysregulated because when we have stable blood sugar, you can wake up in the morning and not need to eat, like to be okay for couple hours. And the hunger, when it comes on is not intense feed me now. Like panic, fear, hunger. It’s more like, oh, I could eat. Yeah, I’ll eat soon, you know? And I’ll get to that. So that’s really a big, big symptom for a lot of people is just like that ravishing hunger. And almost like that fear that comes on. I know I used to always wake up being like, what am I going to eat?
And I would have all this anxiety about what I was going to eat. And you know, that was my body just, totally out of whack and out of control. So does that answer your question?
Doug: Absolutely. And I think that lays a really great foundation for it. I think so many times that, people think that sugar addiction is just a buzzword, just a way of putting the impetus on someone else or saying like, this is not my problem, but there actually is a biological issue going on our physiological response to this. I think that’s such a fascinating concept.
And I’d love to dive into that. To get back to your own story and how you got started in this and perhaps why you’re so passionate about it. [00:14:00] I’d love to hear a little bit more about your own story and about how you got into this.
Dani: Yeah. So my journey, like I mentioned earlier, really started at childhood.
I grew up in a typical household. I had mom, the dad, the brother and the nuclear family and you know, sugar was always prevalent. And, I think this is really common for many. I was actually a really picky eater as well. And we would eat sugar after dinner every night, right? There was always desserts.
Dani: Like it was never a complete day without dessert. I actually, because I was such a picky eater, all I wanted to eat I joke, was white things because all I would eat was pasta with cheese, bread with cheese like, there was a lot of cheese as well, but you know, the white rice with butter on it like, I never wanted, you know, my mom did get some vegetables and meat and I went through a period where I didn’t want meat, I just wanted bagels with cream cheese.
Like that’s what I wanted to live on for my younger years. And I’m thankful that I grew out of that. My taste buds adjusted. But that really laid the groundwork for me, as well as observing my mother’s behavior. So I would say, you know, everyone in my house definitely had a sweet tooth, but I would say it was my mom’s influence that made the biggest impact in me [00:15:00] seeing how we used food. Right. And, how to, at the end of the day, just sneaking candy or hiding candy, or always having snacks on like, just using that as just a normal thing to just be eating all the time or to be snacking on treats, right. When you go out, like just get something at the grocery store, you know, it was just a big part of the day.
And obviously in the food I was eating because white pasta and white bread and bagels or sugar, for those who didn’t know those white carbs, those are just sugar in the body. Same, same. So, you know, that was kind of what my upbringing was like, and we went out for ice cream all the time and when I did something good at school, I would get rewarded with sugar.
When I fell down and scraped my knee, I would get ice cream and everything would be better. And it would be okay. So it was in all of these patterns and belief systems started being imprinted in me. Like this is how we use food. When I’m sad, we’ll use food when I’m happy and I did good. And I got an A in school, we use food.
Dani: And it’s usually sugar. It’s not usually, you know, oh, let’s go for apple slices or let’s go out and eat some avocados, right. It’s usually the sugar. So that was very much just my patterning you know, in the beginning years of my life. And I [00:16:00] went off to university.
I was always really active. I played soccer, I would go to the gym, and like many who are maybe still tricking themselves with this. I’m going to call you out on this because we can’t owe exercise a bad diet. Maybe when you’re younger, it looks like you can, but on the inside, you’re not, and that’s what I was doing.
And I was going to the gym and then I was coming home and just pounding pasta or pizza, and those blue Gatorades, like we used to drink Gatorade, the sports drinks. Oh my goodness. Don’t even get me started on those. They’re horrible. Please do not drink those. I wasn’t gaining weight.
I was still looking healthy, even though when I look back now, how exhausted I was and unable to focus in class and like all of these things I know now are symptoms of that dysregulation starting for me. So that’s kind of how I went through typical university student. I would, binge on candy and sugar on the weekends, if not during the week as well, to help me get through and stay awake while I’m studying and things like that.
And after I graduated, I actually went off to work. A lot of people don’t know this. I have my degree in finance. I actually went off to work in one of the biggest banks here in Canada. And, That was a very interesting experience and I’m grateful for that experience. It was two years of [00:17:00] hell if I can say that here, it was a really, really horrible, toxic environment that it taught me a lot. I’m really grateful for that, but it really amplified my unhealthy eating habits.
So the stress and anxiety that came from that was really pushing me to numb out and escape and come home every day, feeling depressed and anxious and using that as an excuse to drink wine and binge on Netflix and eat junk. So I would come home every day, just miserable, so unhappy, depressed, anxious, stressed, all of it, all of those really heavy emotions. And I would just totally numb out with anything that I could. And that was really the start of my sugar, emotional awakening we’ll call it. I’m so grateful. My husband and I both at that time said, there’s gotta be more to life.
And we took our first leap of faith and quit our jobs. And what we did, this is obviously the Coles notes of this really long story, but we quit our jobs and we went to South America for a year. We traveled and we decided we’re going on this soul searching journey. Just like in some sort of fancy movie that we’ve all seen this story in a movie, right?[00:18:00] And so we traveled and we worked, we did volunteering and different things that really experience and other culture and experience another way of being. And it was on that trip that, that seed started being planted for me subconsciously around seeing how people who have so little, how they actually relate to their food, right? Like nobody down there. I mean, not nobody. It’s becoming more and more prevalent, which is really sad. But while I was there, like what I got to witness was everybody cooking their own meals. People didn’t just fast food it all the time or get pre-made meals.
They were actually taking the time to sit and cook, even if it was the keenwah soup or even if it was full of potatoes. I mean, we were in the Andes mountains, so there was a lot of keenwah and white potatoes, which are pretty starchy as well in the body. But just seeing, you know, people would go to the markets and the markets there are just incredible. Fresh food, fruit and meat and vegetables and just anything and the avocados.
That’s actually where I learned to like avocados. So, I just started witnessing that. Witnessing that in a different way and starting to observe like how I was actually eating back home and not actually taking the time to create nourishing meals. I was eating a lot of packaged foods and [00:19:00] those kraft dinner and pre-made meal mixes and take out pizza and stuff like that. So I started really just thinking about that and it was towards the end of our trip. We were there for just a week shy of a year, but about nine months in, I remember my body actually seriously craving vegetables. So we were living on anything that looked safe to eat and a lot of travel. And during our travel days, we would just live on buns and cheese and luckily avocado and cakes and cookies, like anything that was in a package that could stay fresh on a 30 hour bus ride. So we ate a lot of that junk, quick snacks, quick things that we could just grab and shove it in our mouths.
And nine months into that, my body started finally screaming like I need vegetables, I need real food. And we were able to make some changes to be at places where we had access to a kitchen and we could start cooking, which if anyone’s traveled in, less sanitary countries, you know that it’s tricky because you can’t wash the vegetables cause the water might have parasites in it.
So it was a whole thing, but we figured it out. And at the very end of that trip, were actually living at a yoga retreat and yoga center in [00:20:00] the middle of the Colombian jungle. It was about a two hour hike into the jungle, so no roads. And that was the first time in my life I’ve ever fully lived off the land.
So it was a really eye-opening experience. And the reason that that time was so specific and so important, was cause that’s where I went through my accidental sugar detox. So I didn’t know it at the time, but because I was not eating processed food, there was no option of processed food. Yes, we were still eating fruit that had sugar in it.
Like there was fresh mango trees. Of course we were eating those. But everything else was just whole grains, whole food, lots of vegetables, lots of really nourishing food. And looking back now in hindsight, I remember it having for a good week or so we were there about two weeks. So for good week, there was headaches, random headaches, I couldn’t sleep at night. Like I’d wake up in the middle of the night, not be able to fall back asleep, which is not normal for me. I remember being just tired at random times of the day. I mean, we weren’t doing a lot of physical labor there. I mean, we would work a little bit in the afternoons and pretty much lays around the rest of the day and do yoga.
So I shouldn’t have been tired. So what was going on there? So I just noticed like my [00:21:00] body, obviously not knowing what was going on. And this happens right. When we detox from sugar processed food, our body just goes crazy because it has no idea what’s going on and then it balances out again. So that was really eye opening for me because a week later we came home to Canada and I remember having a laundry list of items that I wanted to have that I missed from our trip because there’s no Starbucks in south America.
And I wanted caramel frappuccino. And there is no Tim Horton’s for any Canadians listening. I couldn’t get a bagel. I haven’t had a bagel in a year. You know, I wanted a bagel and cream cheese and a Starbucks frappuccino and red licorice and all of my favorite candy and stuff that they didn’t have down there. And I came home and I remember starting to try having some of these things. I think it was even in the airport that I saw my first Starbucks and I was like, yes, I’m going to get this good blended coffee. And I remember taking a sip of it and like spitting it back out because it was so sweet. It actually was gross to me in that moment. And that was probably such an eyeopening moment for me and realizing that my taste buds had actually healed and grown back, in just those like 10 days to two weeks that I was at this farm, my [00:22:00] cravings and my mouth started changing its desire for the sweet taste.
And that was that light bulb moment for me. Okay. Something’s going on here. Sugar has control over my health and my decisions, and there was that actual control battle between me and sugar. And understanding that really put me on alert because I’m someone who loves to be in control. That’s just my personality. And and when I found out that something else had control over me. I was like, no, no, this isn’t going to go. This is not okay. So I really just started diving in and being curious about that. And both my husband and I were feeling pretty gross from just eating like junk for a year. So we just cleaned up our diet.
We got off sugar. We actually went off meat at that time, which I eat meat now, but we went vegetarian. And we just started eating clean and looking after ourselves. And that was the start of that journey for me and really diving in and questioning. And towards the end of that journey, I really discovered my truth and my passion for helping others get healthy, right.
And learn to eat and learn to look after themselves and build healthy habits. And that’s really where the spark started for me. So I went and got my certificate in holistic nutritional [00:23:00] coaching, and it was through that learning that I started hearing about how dangerous sugar was. And the long-term effects and started learning about sugar addiction and really started putting those pieces together for myself and knowing that, Hey, that’s me like that’s what’s going on for me.
And if I don’t do something about this now for myself, I can look very real at my family, right? My genetic lineage that awaits me if I don’t step into and take personal responsibility for what I’m feeding myself and my family, especially my matrilineal side of my family is riddled with every single chronic disease.
So my grandparents, I have zero grandparents. They’re all deceased. They’ve, had cancer and heart disease and actually never met my dad’s dad. He died before I was alive of heart disease. And my mom is, you know, obesity runs in my family and just Alzheimer’s like everything, everything.
And I took a really hard look and started seeing, Hey, there’s a tie in here with their addiction to sugar and how that’s turned on certain genes and how it’s led to the development of these diseases. And that was another light bulb moment for me and realizing like, I don’t want [00:24:00] that for me. That’s a hard, no, and I actually have so much power over making changes in my life right now, my diet, my life, my mindset that are going to at least help me prevent a lot of those things from happening. Right. I mean, we never know what’s going to happen. We can only do our best, but that was a big motivator for me. Just seeing what awaited me, if I continued living and eating the way that I was, and that was not okay with me.
So I started making those changes and within like the last five years, I’ve really found a process that works for building a healthy relationship with sugar that’s not depriving and coming from a place of power and freedom. And that’s what I do now. I share that journey and that inner peace and the deep work and uncovering where and why these patterns with sugar are showing up, especially emotionally. I know for me, a lot of it is from trauma that I’ve been through is from my belief systems that were given to me in the first seven years of my life. That really dictated how I used food. And mostly, big piece for me was the emotional piece.
I use sugar as a crutch for everything. And when I was feeling uncomfortable in my body, whether it was grief or stress or anxiety, it [00:25:00] was Ice cream. Like it was go to the food. So learning to repattern that and over time, build new neural pathways was so, so important. And that’s how I’m able to live in this life and healthy, freed and back in control of when I’m choosing to have sugar or choosing to have food. It’s from a place of self-love and empowerment from within. So that’s what I do now. There’s like the Coles notes of my wild story. There’s lots of pieces in that and I feel like I’m still in the middle of my story, you know, and I do share very raw and vulnerably with, my clients and with my audience, this is a journey. I am not perfect, I fail all the time and I love it because it helped me learn and grow. And I wish we could all embrace failure in that way and not put ourselves on this perfection pedestal and understand that we’re all dealing with things, you know, I know this pandemic really threw everybody through a loop, especially emotionally and, maybe highlighted some of the patterns that were going on for you emotionally with food. So be kind and gentle and curious and just know that I’m still on this journey too. I’m forever, I think until we end and leave this earth will always be uncovering new things about ourselves or new areas to work on.
Doug: I think [00:26:00] that’s such an important point because oftentimes people will ask for my own, you know, when someone comes in for a client and they’ll say, you went through this weight loss. Do you still struggle with this? And occasionally? Yes. I mean, hypnosis has helped me with the habits and everything, but as you said, it’s still that journey and with your story, there’s so many things that I love to explore a little bit further.
One thing that really stuck, out to me near the very beginning was you mentioned we used food as that psychological or physical crutch. I’d love to ask, kind of looking at the psychological side of the perhaps addiction to the sugar, what’s actually happening with our psychological associations around food, and perhaps how could we change that?
Uh yes, this is a big topic and a really big question. So I’ll do my best to just like, bring little pieces and plant some seeds for anyone listening. So what I’ve noticed when I am such a huge proponent of learning through experience and on my own journey and learning through my client’s experience, I learn a lot from my clients just observing what they’re going through.
And then obviously from experts in the space, I used to host a world renowned summit, just focused on sugar. So I’ve been able to interview [00:27:00] some deep experts in this space and, psychologically what I’ve seen going on, there’s a couple things. And this gets really deep because anybody who has never been around like the conversation around trauma, this might be like kind of out there for you, but just stay open.
So what I’ve seen is, all of us carry some sort of trauma or wounds from the first seven to 10 years of life. And this is the time of life where our brain is actually trying to understand how to fit in in the world and how to stay safe and essentially how to stay alive. This is our primal part of our brain, our caregivers must love us. They must accept us. They must support us or else we will die. Like this is our primitive brain. So those first years of life, we’re trying to make sense of the world and how we fit in it. How we fit into society. How do we, you know, be normal so we don’t stand out.
Right. We don’t want to stand out too much cause that’s dangerous. Right. We might get kicked out of the tribe at that point and get eaten by a lion. So there’s all of these kinds of balancing acts that we start to do and depending on what culture you grew up in or what religion, obviously there’ll be nuances for all of us. But essentially, [00:28:00] In that time, I believe that all of us have some sort of wounds that show up. And whether it’s a big T trauma or a little T trauma, for me, it’s a lot of little T traumas that I’m starting to realize are actually bigger T traumas. Like if we don’t actually feel a sense of love and acceptance and deep connection and emotional support from our main caregivers, we immediately shut down.
There will be walls that come up, there will be beliefs that start to form. And this is where I do a lot of the work with my clients around these emotional beliefs specifically. So the beliefs such as, it’s not safe to be emotional or anger is not acceptable, or if I cry, it means I’m weak and my dad won’t love me. So there’s, a lot of these psychological patterns that are actually trauma, for a small child, not an adult but a small child who doesn’t know how the world works. These become imprints in our brain. And we start to put these lenses on in which we see the whole world through.
And then we start to manifest these same behaviors. So we go our whole lives and every single one of my clients has mentioned this. That there’s this wall up around feeling around actually [00:29:00] allowing ourselves to be emotional and honoring that. And what happens there specifically around the emotional piece, and this is just one of many pieces, but I think it’s the biggest one, which is why I want to bring it out.
Is that when we don’t actually allow ourselves to express and be our authentic selves, which most of us as children learn to not be. We learned to sit straight, raise your hand and ask for permission. Don’t be too loud. Like this was a lot of my messaging, Dani, don’t be too loud, don’t be too silly, don’t be too pretty or too smart. Like you’ve gotta be kind of in the middle. So don’t really be you, be this person. So there’s a lot of like faking, being like, our authentic self which a kid is, I mean, look at a kid, they’re just like wild and free and amazing, and like, don’t care what anybody thinks about them.
And it’s really refreshing. And somehow that gets really forced out of us. And that creates such a huge disconnect combining with this lack of being able to really feel, and when we don’t allow ourselves to feel and honor our emotions, they get stuck in ourselves. So emotions are just energy in motion. I love that.
It’s not my saying, someone else made that [00:30:00] up. But it’s true. They’re energy, so if you know anything about energy, and I think your audience hopefully does, at this point it just gets stored in your cells. And it’s like putting a lid on a soda or a sparkling water and just shaking and shaking and shaking it. Eventually it’s going to explode. And what happens is we have never been given the tools to actually know that it’s safe to feel and know how to feel in a way that we don’t feel like we’re going to die. A lot of people believe that if I allow myself to feel anger, I’m going to fall apart and I’m not going to be able to go to work, and I’m just going to be a shell of a human for the rest of my life. And that’s not true, but that’s how our subconscious brain thinks. If I allow myself to fully feel the pain from this situation, I’m never going to come back from it. So we stopped it in. And that creates such an internal turmoil and void and disconnection from ourselves.
And the only way that we know how to fill that is with something that makes us feel good in the moment. And a lot of us have this patterning, like I did when you fall down and you hurt and you’re crying and your mom says, stop crying, let’s get an ice cream. I [00:31:00] learned it’s not okay to cry, I need ice cream when I’m sad.
So when we feel uncomfortable in our body or any of these uncomfortable emotions come up, we immediately turn to food because it’s in our wiring. And it gives us a momentary dopamine hit. But then later we’re hit with guilt and shame and weight gain and all the other like poor sleep and then we’re tired and then we eat more.
It just keeps accumulating. So psychologically, a lot of this is we have to look back at those, formative years and start understanding how those experience has shaped, you know, what was the conversation or lack of conversation around expressing yourself and being you and being loved and being accepted and being emotional.
Because we’re meant to feel, and then we have to learn how to repattern that, which is you know, it’s, how do we do that? It’s not so cut and dry. It’s definitely a lot of conversations, but it really is a lot of practice. A really simple example would be if you notice that your tendency and your main trigger is anxiety, and whenever you’re feeling anxious, you turn to food.
You can start to choose a new way. So, you know, brainstorming, everybody’s going to be different. What else can you do when you’re feeling anxious that can help support you? And number one is actually allowing yourself to feel the [00:32:00] anxiety, which is a whole another challenge. Cause it feels really uncomfortable, especially things like grief. How do we actually allow ourselves to just sit and feel grief? Most of us have never done that. It’s really beautiful actually like crying is one of the best feelings in the world if you actually allow it to be, so learning how to feel and then learning how to say it again with that anxiety example, how do we choose something else?
So, okay. Next time I’m feeling really anxious. I’m going to go for a walk or I’m going to call my best friend, or I’m going to go cuddle on the bed with my cat, like what are those things that are actually going to nourish and comfort you in those moments with what you actually need? And. The more you practice that, the more the new neural pathway starts to be built.
So you’re not gonna be perfect at it at first, you’re gonna go to food, food, food. One day, you’re going to go cuddle your cat and then food, food, food. And then you’re going to have like two days in a row where anxiety comes up and you don’t turn to food. So it does take a lot of time and commitment and support like this is something that really requires ongoing community support whether it’s with a therapist or someone that you trust or someone that can really be there to navigate those tricky times. So really this is what I find as well with people and [00:33:00] why, the tough love and truth here is that this deep inner healing and work and repatterning, and creating new belief systems and create a new neuro pathways in the brain takes a lot of time.
Okay, this is not something that you can just rush, and this is why people avoid it because it takes time and it’s really uncomfortable. I’m not going to lie, I’ve been through some really dark places and some really difficult challenges and coming out of that, feeling so much lighter and at peace and free, but you have to go through the mud to get to the grass on the other side.
So you have to be willing to do that. And a lot of people aren’t, I’m hoping everybody on your podcast is, but I have to say that because I think there’s a lot of misinformation out there about the quick fix or the quick way to do this, change your neural pathways in 10 minutes.
And I’m like, no, like this stuff that subconsciously that we’ve been thinking and behaving this way for 30, 40, 50, 60 years. When we think of that, like that’s how long we’ve been walking this neuropath in our brain, it’s going to take some time to create a new path. So we need to be patient with ourselves in that. But does that make sense, Doug? I [00:34:00] know there’s so much in that conversation, but I think it’s really important just to point out that we all have baggage from those first years of life. And we can start to look at that curiously, you know, how do we relate with our mom and dad or whoever our caregiver was and where are we allowed to be emotional, where we actually heard and seen. This is I think most of our biggest core wound, that’s one of mine, I never really felt heard and seen. And therefore I learned how to keep my mouth shut. And I learned to like, pretend nothing was wrong. So like these patterns we need to start to look at and they really lie at the root of like, whether it’s alcohol or food.
I mean, this is all stemming from that root like disconnection with ourself and the patterns that are going on in our brain.
And I really appreciate what you mentioned about big T traumas and little T traumas, that they happen to all of us and no matter how hard our parents or caregivers might have tried, we still kind of have those bumps and bruises, essentially if they’re the small T’s.
And, oftentimes people come in and they’re like, I’m not broken, but I’ve got this issue and broken is completely the wrong word. It’s just ineffective living essentially, and I really [00:35:00] appreciate that. I’d love to ask a little bit about the neural pathways. Oftentimes people will come in to work with me and they’ll say, can you help me change a laundry list of things by next Friday?
And I say, it takes time. I know a lot of hypnotists who are saying, you know, I can fix anything in a single session. It’s, doesn’t really work like that. It takes time to build through that and work with that. I love to know, looking at the neural pathways, what actually happens when we create originally that sugar addiction and what’s actually happening at the brain level when we work through that to get rid of it.
Dani: So, are you asking specifically about the, like the physical cause there’s two things going on, right? Like there’s the very physical, addictive patterning, or addictive reaction in the body when we eat sugar. So there’s a physical component, but then there’s also like the more energy psychological component.
Doug: I think I’d like to know more about the physical side, but if you’d like to include some about the energy, that’d be fine as well.
Dani: Yeah. Yeah. So I’ll say this first off the bat, I’m definitely not a scientist. I said this earlier, so this is, like diving deeper into this, but generally like I mentioned earlier, really does come back to what I mentioned earlier when we physically eat [00:36:00] sugar.
Obviously there’s a lot of things going on with our blood sugar and our gut. And it’s just kind of this explosion in the body. And we get that hit in the brain. And what sugar does when the glucose actually travels to the brain or the fructose which are the smallest broken down molecules of sugar traveled to the brain and like I said, hit those reward centers, right? They go to actually all the areas in the brain because our brain can actually live off of glucose, it is a fuel source in the body. But it sends these signals to these pleasure centers, right? And all of these areas in the brain that fire up, like imagine fireworks, they’ve actually done and you can probably find some on YouTube I would imagine. Some beautiful, like MRI scans of people eating sugar and seeing what happens in the brain and it looks really beautiful. But it’s really eye opening at how like powerful that is. And when we’re doing this, our whole lives. Most of us start young, overdosing on sugar like I did. That is happening constantly all day long.
And one thing that I really want to mention here in this, cause it ties into this conversation is, this is also like the centers of our brain where we feel a sense of [00:37:00] happiness and joy, right?
It’s a dopamine that’s being released and, all these other beautiful chemicals that are making us feel all warm and fuzzy. And we’re doing this at least three meals a day, if not snacks in between, like we’re constantly being wired and combined in this day and age with also the hit that we’re getting to the same centers when we look at our Instagram. Or we watch a really exciting action movie, or whatever you like. We live in this world where it’s just really hijacking our brain and sugar is just one of the main, like, attributes to that, like contributors. But we’re getting this hit literally all day long.
Especially if you have your phone on, like making noises, my phone’s been on silent for the last like five years. Anybody who tries to call me, he’s like, why don’t you never answer. I don’t have any noises come out of my phone because that right there is just constantly hitting that center in the brain.
And when we’re constantly firing up that center, you think about it never has time to rest. And if you think of these neuro-pathways like literally like paths through a forest. So we’ve been spending our whole life 20, 30, 40, a hundred times a day walking [00:38:00] the same path. Getting that hit, whether it’s from sugar or from Instagram or the movies or wherever, it just hitting this pathway. And we’re learning that like, we need more and more of these things to feel good, to feel joy. And I think this is a big piece. This is what I wanted to mention around joy is that so many of my clients will come to me feeling like they have no joy in their life other than food and sugar.
And this is a real hard pill to swallow. This was a pill I had to swallow like, oh my gosh, this is the main source of joy in my life. And one thing to really understand about the brain here is because those centers have become so worn down and exhausted. You’re not actually able to physically able to feel normal joy. So, because your pleasure centers are used to being up here at like level a million, and normal everyday joy, like cuddling your cat or watching a sunrise or having a nice cup of tea or I sometimes look out and we live rurally and I love watching the birds like fly across and land in the tree.
Like these little things that are really joyful and no [00:39:00] longer give us joy because we’re accustomed to a level 1 million of joy. So when we start getting off of sugar, getting it out of the body, reregulating the systems, we start noticing that things that never used to give us joy before start giving us joy.
And that might even be like real food, right? Maybe eating a carrot has never given me joy before, but now you’re like, wow, this carrot actually tastes good because I can taste again. And we start noticing like the sunset, wow, that feels really good. Like I noticed that that is actually making me happy.
So like you asked, how do we start navigating and getting out of those pathways, those neuropathways would be recreating a new path and committing to that and practicing that new path. Like I mentioned, it’s that we have to walk that new path as much as we walk the old path.
So every day it’s a choice and there’s lots of tricks we can use, to like put sticky notes everywhere, set reminders on your phone or mantras and affirmations you can use and different tricks that you can use to really remind yourself daily, to think this new thought and to think this new way of being, you know, I no longer use sugar when I’m sad.
When I’m sad, I call a friend, or when I’m sad, I allow [00:40:00] myself to cry and it feels great. You know, these are new belief systems, or new pathways that we’re building so that we can operate differently. And part of that, you really do have to get the sugar out of your body.
Dani: We can’t keep hitting ourselves and the notifications on your phone and anything that’s like artificially hitting your dopamine centers at level a million. You know, we need to pair those back and really start regrounding and then from that ground level, we can start to build that new pathway and just start treading that new path as much as possible.
Does that answer your question?
Doug: Yes, you mentioned the point about the carrots and it brings up a story of a friend who went off sugar for a month and afterwards they were eating bell peppers like they were a candy because they finally could taste the sweetness of it.
And looking at your two week experience in Columbia, detoxing off of that sugar. How long does it take for us to, interrupt that sugar pattern and then notice how much of an impact it’s actually playing in our life.
Dani: Yes. Such a good question. So. This is really going to vary per person. And this is actually really great place for me to say [00:41:00] how the way that I work with clients and helping them get to this place is quite different than what a lot of other people are.
I mean, you can Google sugar, addiction, support, and sugar coaches and whatever, and there’s lots of us and we’re all amazing doing really amazing things. But one of the problems that I’ve seen is so many people out there, or just focusing on the physical. So just focusing on, I’m going to detox from sugar for two weeks or 30 days or 60 days or 90 days, I’m just going to get out of my body.
I’m going to help my blood sugar rebalance and my body and my taste buds grow back and my gut to heal itself and all these amazing things do happen when you detox. And they forgot about what we’re talking about the psychological components of rewiring the way that we behave and the way that essentially we have to changed our relationship with ourself, and our relationship with the world and how we see the world. So really doing that mindset work, the belief work, the identity work, the healing, the traumas work, and all of that needs to happen at the same time. So, when we talk about like how long it takes to reset, it depends on, I would say on how much you’re diving into the inner work at the same time as the detox.
So if you’re just [00:42:00] thinking physically, I know a lot of my clients, when they go through my programs, we do a minimum 30 days sugar-free and a lot of them will start just feeling like a completely new person in seven to 14 days. Some of them don’t start feeling like a new person until day 30.
Some of them, I mean, it really is going to be so specific on number one, like how long we’ve been overdosing on sugar, how much sugar we’ve been eating? That’s going to be a bit different if you’ve lived your whole life drinking, two liters of Coke every day and eating every meal at McDonald’s versus someone who is trying to eat healthy, but eats dessert every day and maybe has one Coke every day.
So how much you’re having, like how much your body’s been bombarded and how many years? It’s going to depend on your activity level, your genetics. If you’re male or female, your hormones, your amount of water and sleep you get every day. Like it’s going to depend on a lot of things.
How long will take to start feeling the shifts physically, but I really want to hit home like if you’ve got to do them together, you know, a lot of people like as soon as cause here’s the thing, what happens is when we remove sugar from our diets, we’ve literally removed our crutch.
And if you don’t [00:43:00] have the right support or tools to address all of this stuff that’s coming up. All of the fear, all of the uncomfortable motions, all of the challenges, all of the stuff that’s coming up because now you’re no longer hiding behind your crutch. You’re not going to last very long, and this is what exactly what I see so many people doing. Now your crutches gone and then after your 30 day challenge is over you’re right back to sugar, because it was so uncomfortable, you didn’t have your safety blanket. And you didn’t have the tools to start repatterning and knowing that it was normal and it was okay that you were feeling blue or that these things were happening.
Like it’s all part of the journey, having somebody there to like, keep you accountable and support you with that is so important. So like I said, it’s going to depend and it’s really going to depend on how much support and guidance you get to do the inner work at the same time.
So if you’re just detoxing from sugar, you know, you’re probably going to still maybe feel like a basket case after day 30, or not fully in control again. But if you’re doing that at the same time as being curious and repatterning and starting to heal, I mean, that stuff obviously takes years, I’m not gonna lie, but, with the right support, you can really get somewhere in, two to three [00:44:00] months with a lot of this like inner work stuff and the detox stuff, I’d say minimum.
Yeah. Minimum 30 days. And start where you’re at. I mean, I’m definitely not saying it’s not going to be beneficial for you to go seven days sugar-free anybody who’s nervous or terrified to remove that crutch, you know, even just start with a day. Try a day And just start practicing and knowing that you can build your way up and get that out. But when we remove it, that’s when our body is able to then look at what was I using it for? You know, oh, there’s a craving here. I used to actually, turn to sugar now, but I can’t, it’s not an option because I’m not on sugar this month. What’s going on?
So we actually shine the light on those pieces and we have to be willing to dive into them or it’s just not going to last. And the last thing that I want any human to do is get on another fad diet or continue the diet rollercoaster that’s hijacked our mental health and our ability to love ourselves. And really just think about this in terms of a longterm shift in how you show up.
Doug: Such a fascinating answer. And I think that’s such an important point that when we removed that crutch without having anything to kind of support to replace it that just like nature, the mind kind of abhors that vacuum.
And we immediately will reach to something else if we can’t have that thing, or [00:45:00] we’ll go back and just revert. And so I think that’s such an important thing for listeners to understand. So Dani, this has been a fantastic conversation. To honor your time, I just want to ask a couple of closing questions.
Do you have any uncommon advice that perhaps goes against what people expect that you give to clients? Oh,
Dani: yes. Can I share a couple?
Well, the first one I’ve already kind of mentioned is that this is not just about detoxing from sugar. Does it most people come in thinking we’re going to learn all about food and nutrition.
And my clients come into my programs and like four weeks. And they’re like, why haven’t we it’s about food yet? I’m like, cause it has nothing to do with food. When we start diving into like, why we’re actually eating. So that’s really, really eye opening for a lot of my clients. Another really two other big things that I love really like mind blowing people with is, nothing is going to change in your life if you just keep soaking in more information. And I know this goes counterintuitive to you listening to this podcast, right? But I look out there and I’ve had so many conversations with clients who are just, they’ve read all the books.
They’ve listened to all the podcasts. They’ve watched all the YouTube videos and all the documentaries and their life is still [00:46:00] not different. Why have they not been able to heal their relationship with sugar? And it’s the simple fact that action is what gets us results. So how many of us and myself included, okay, I’m not shaming or guilting anyone. I’ve read a book that has action items or activities or exercises, and you never do them. Right? Like these are the pieces. So it’s not like, I actually was chatting with a client the other day and she’s doing a 30 day, like information detox. She’s just going to listen to my inner wisdom and actually apply the tools that you’ve given me to instigate the change.
So we actually, we have to do the things and that’s often that it’s so much easier to just read a book, but we have to put down the books. You know what you need to do. And really trusting our inner knowing in that, like, we know how to be healthy. We know what we need to do, but we’re not doing it because it’s difficult. So get out of information overload and just start taking action, give yourself permission to do a detox. You don’t need all that stuff, and yes, there’s a time and a place. Obviously this podcast is really important to listen to, but take it and actually take some of the tools and take action on that.
And the last one I’ll share is the power of stillness. So [00:47:00] here’s the thing that I’ve noticed in my personal journey is the more time you spend in stillness and silence with yourself, the faster, these changes are going to happen. Being busy is another addiction of our society. Being busy is just another way to numb out.
So you might stop eating sugar, but you’re busy all day with your to-do lists and you’re totally distracting yourself from what’s going on inside. So we need to practice being okay being with ourselves. And for a lot of you listening, that might be the most terrifying thing you’ve ever heard.
But please know that it’s possible and with the right support, you’re going to be okay. And it is a mandatory part of the journey. So it’s not about doing more. Yes, there are things to do, but this is really also an invitation in this to embrace stillness and do less and give yourself permission to not tie your worthiness to how much you get done in a day. This is a huge piece that I find with all my clients, all of humans I think. We’ve been raised in this world where if you don’t do anything in a day, you’re useless, you become worthless. And that is a core wound for a lot of us. And we tie so much our [00:48:00] identity in our worthiness of love to that.
So learning to be still, that’s something that a lot of people don’t expect. Right. It’s like, okay, stop doing all the things. What are you talking about, Dani? I’m like, just stop, burn your to-do list and sit. It doesn’t have to be meditation. You can just sit on your deck with a cup of tea or go for a walk without distractions. There’s lots of ways to kind of be with yourself and stillness. So yeah, that would be those three. I mean, there’s so many, but that’s a great question.
Doug: They’re fantastic. The point you made about stillness really hit me hard. I grew up in Wisconsin, in a rural area where my family always had that expectation of work.
And when I went off to college, I really had to struggle with that idea of stillness and of self-worth over if I’m not working today, am I actually worthy of anything? And it took me, kind of, as you mentioned, the travel, I had to go on a hike for about three months and the only option I had was to spend time with myself. And so, learning to be okay with my own self to not have to run to that distraction is, it’s changed so many areas of my life, not only the food, but also the social media, the internet, you know, watching Netflix or something like that. And having that good [00:49:00] relationship with yourself, I think is so foundational.
Dani: Yeah. Essentially. I think so many of us, and again, I’m in this, I’ve been through this. We don’t know who we are anymore. All of my clients come to me, just totally unsure of who they are and how they fit in the world. And I love that you did that. That’s so incredible. I’m a multi-day hiker as well, or back country hiker, but I’ve only done seven days. I’ve never done three months, but it’s like just doing those things in your day where you can learn who you really are and uncover your true authentic selves that you knew when you were young and then society has kind of shaped us out of it.
So how can we learn to honor that? And I think that’s such a big piece. Another conversation for another podcast obviously, it’s a big one, but so important.
Doug: Absolutely. So Danny, I’d love to ask, do you have any resources, tips, or tools that listeners can use to get started?
Dani: Absolutely. So, yeah, if you resonated with any of this, definitely come and check out my website, danielledaem.com.
On my website, you’ll see a free three-part workshop series that I put together that’s really all a deeper dive into the emotional conversation around emotional eating and this emotional connection that we have to sugar and how we [00:50:00] can start repatterning that. So definitely go and grab that. I also have a podcast that I just started. Super excited about that, so come and check out the beyond sugar freedom podcast. Um, I have a YouTube channel as well, Danielle Dame, and you can find me on Instagram and Facebook. I’m on all the places I’m there and I’ve got lots of resources and videos and some other free downloads on my website too that are really great place to just get started and get curious.
Doug: Absolutely. And listeners, all of those links will be in the show notes or the description if you’re watching on YouTube. And, I highly encourage everyone to check out Dani’s work.
And so, finally, I’d love to ask Dani, is there anything else that you’d like to share? Any advice or wisdom that you’d like to close up.
Dani: Such a good one. There’s so many things I could share. I feel like I’ve obviously given a lot. There’s probably a lot going on in your head right now if you’re listening.
But I think just listening to my intuition here, the biggest reminder that I’d like to leave, all of you with is, to go through this journey with curiosity. Okay. Bring childlike, curiosity. I know it’s so easy, especially with the guilt and shame that we’ve carried our whole lives about who we are and our [00:51:00] eating patterns and our binge eating and the way our body looks.
And really this journey of inward healing does takes a level of compassion and curiosity with yourself. So I want you to start thinking of yourself as an investigator. So if you binge on cookies last night, just start getting curious, like a kid would like, why did I eat all those cookies last night?
Dani: Like what was going on for me? What was my emotional state? You know, Being curious, journal it out, really just start gathering that information because you have to start with awareness. And sometimes that’s enough to start switching that pattern. So I just want to remind you all to be aware of where that nasty, bully in your brain is coming out and, put them to the side kindly and just lead with curiosity and trust yourself in this journey. You’re on the right track, listening to this podcast. You’re obviously doing some things that are so beautiful for you. So give yourself some compassion and love, and don’t forget to also celebrate yourself.
You know, this is something we have trouble with. Celebrate yourself, your small wins. You know, if you set a boundary with someone that’s not respecting you, that’s a beautiful thing to celebrate, right. Or if you go one day without [00:52:00] sugar or one meal, or you skipped your normal dessert this evening, let’s celebrate it.
So, curiosity celebration. There you go.
Doug: Absolutely. Perfect. Well Dani, thank you so much for being on the podcast today.
Dani: Yes. Thank you so much for having me and thank you everyone for listening. I hope you reach out and can’t wait to chat more soon.
Doug: What an incredible conversation that was. I felt like I could have asked Dani questions all day long. I learned so much, and I know that you did as well. If you want to learn more about Dani and about her work, I encourage you to connect with her on her website.
She’s got lots of programs and Dani and I have put in hard times to get this information to you. So please take a few moments of your time to pay it forward to her and just check out her work. And finally, have you subscribed yet? We’ve been reaching a growing number of listeners all around the world, from north America, to Europe, to South Africa, to Australia as well.
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Danielle talked about her own journey through an unexpected sugar detox, and how her body and taste buds changed once all the sugar was out of her system.
I knew sugar had an impact on us, but this episode really changed my entire perspective on how much of an impact it really has.
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Podcast: The Beyond Sugar Podcast
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